{"id":76152,"date":"2024-03-16T16:14:47","date_gmt":"2024-03-16T08:14:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/version-2.com\/?p=76152"},"modified":"2024-03-06T16:17:39","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T08:17:39","slug":"tech-she-said-insights-and-life-hacks-from-women-in-the-field","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/version-2.com\/en\/2024\/03\/tech-she-said-insights-and-life-hacks-from-women-in-the-field\/","title":{"rendered":"Tech she said: insights and life hacks from women in the field"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"76152\" class=\"elementor elementor-76152\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-35fe5dd post-content elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"35fe5dd\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;_id&quot;:&quot;cef08c3&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_tablet&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_mobile&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_speed&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;%&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:50,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_type&quot;:&quot;scroll&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_direction&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_fx_direction&quot;:null,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_z_index&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size&quot;:&quot;auto&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_animation_prop&quot;:&quot;transform&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_on&quot;:[&quot;desktop&quot;,&quot;tablet&quot;]}]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-409a2e9a\" data-id=\"409a2e9a\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5a8be8f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5a8be8f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/QYaa7iWxoWVr9DL07Kp5i\/9c54438f5cd959050bc00b9b1d77da35\/Women_in_tech_web_1400x800.png?w=1080&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp\" width=\"1080\" height=\"617\" \/><\/p><div class=\"Grid_item__8Wd1v Grid_col8Md__zJ2a8\"><article class=\"RichText_root__1_CNu BlogPostContent_richText__rG0U1\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Many countries mark International Women\u2019s Day on March 8. In the tech industry, we see a significant gap: women occupy <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mckinsey.com\/capabilities\/mckinsey-digital\/our-insights\/women-in-tech-the-best-bet-to-solve-europes-talent-shortage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">only 22% of the tech roles<\/a> in Europe. The Economist&#8217;s <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.economist.com\/graphic-detail\/glass-ceiling-index\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">glass-ceiling rating<\/a> reveals that not even the wealthiest countries have achieved gender equality.\u00a0<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">This led us to have a conversation about gender equality with two accomplished women in tech, <b>Shelby Dacko, <\/b>a Human Risk Analyst at Social-Engineer LLC, and <b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117, <\/b>a Product Manager at NordLayer. We explored issues related to gender equality and self-confidence among women. We also talked about ways to empower women and took time to celebrate their successes.<\/p><h2 id=\"the-interview-highlights\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">The interview highlights<\/h2><ul class=\"RichText_ul__Ajzbe\"><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">To increase the number of women in tech, it&#8217;s essential to both encourage young girls and support women who are already in the field.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Role models are crucial for inspiration; they can be everyday people you know, not necessarily famous women.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">When feeling stressed before something important, reassure yourself by remembering just to do what you do every day.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">A useful strategy during stressful times is to believe that you are the most knowledgeable person in the room.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Being mindful of your current situation, preparing adequately, and investing in presenting yourself confidently are key.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Diversity is beneficial for business as people from different backgrounds and mindsets enhance performance.<\/p><\/li><li class=\"RichText_listItem__DIiAr\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">The tech field is exciting and welcoming, affirming that women are fully capable and belong in this space.<\/p><\/li><\/ul><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Let&#8217;s introduce Shelby Dacko, a Human Risk Analyst at Social-Engineer LLC. She&#8217;s skilled in open-source intelligence and has made over 20,000 vishing calls. Shelby, can you tell us more about yourself and being a certified ethical social engineer?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko:<\/b> I started as a sign language interpreter before shifting towards tech. I was drawn to social engineering after a course recommendation. That course sparked my interest, leading me to join the field. I&#8217;ve been in tech for nearly five years now.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer<\/b>: Thank you. We also welcome Ginte Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117, Product Manager at NordLayer. She focuses on product development and management.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117: <\/b>I joined the cybersecurity sector and NordLayer just over half a year ago. Understanding how users interact with and utilize the product is my area of expertise. Before that, I spent my career in similar positions, leading tech-oriented projects, products, and transformations in both B2C and B2B organizations.<\/p><h2 id=\"insight-1-boost-women-in-tech-by-encouraging-young-girls-and-backing-the-women-who-are-paving-the-way\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #1: Boost women in tech by encouraging young girls and backing the women who are paving the way<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Increasing the number of women in tech is key. A <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mckinsey.com\/capabilities\/mckinsey-digital\/our-insights\/women-in-tech-the-best-bet-to-solve-europes-talent-shortage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">McKinsey analysis<\/a> suggests that if Europe could boost women&#8217;s presence in tech to 45% by 2027, it might close the talent gap and potentially increase GDP by up to \u20ac600 billion.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">There are programs aimed at including women in tech, such as Black Girls Code, among other initiatives. Shelby, what do you think about strategies to further empower women to join and thrive in the tech industry?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko:<\/b> It&#8217;s crucial for young women to see other women in tech. We need to encourage opportunities from a young age, and the organizations mentioned are doing a great job at this. Involvement in programs targeting high schoolers and younger to foster a love for the field is necessary. My company has engaged in such activities, with my boss speaking to children about social engineering. These are just a few actions we need to continue and expand upon.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117:<\/b> I strongly agree that seeing women in technical roles early in life can be as inspiring as knowing Barbie can be a doctor or an astronaut. It shows there are more alternatives.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Another important aspect is how we communicate with children and young adults. Often, girls are complimented on their appearance, while boys are praised for their intelligence. This reflects a societal bias, emphasizing the need for society, including parents, grandparents, uncles, friends, and brothers, to recognize and nurture individuals with a suitable mindset for tech, regardless of gender. Let&#8217;s not limit our children&#8217;s opportunities based on gender stereotypes.<\/p><div class=\"Quote_root__31D_c\"><blockquote class=\"Quote_blockquote__n7q70\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Talent Acquisition insights\u00a0<\/b><\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">In my time hiring for tech roles, I&#8217;ve noticed a big increase in women applying over the last five years. More and more women are showing interest in a variety of tech jobs, like engineering, cybersecurity, and data science.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">At Nord Security, diversity matters a lot to us. We make it a priority to encourage women to apply for positions. Our <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"https:\/\/nordsecurity.com\/nord-switch\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NordSwitch<\/a> program is a great example of this. We run it every year to bring in people from different backgrounds.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">We&#8217;re looking forward to it this April just as much as in past years. It&#8217;s worth noting that half of the people we hired from this program were women. What&#8217;s even more heartening is that 90% of them have stayed with us for more than six months, and they&#8217;re happy in their roles.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Lauryna Gir\u0117nien\u0117, Head of Talent Acquisition at NordVPN and NordLayer<\/p><\/blockquote><p><a class=\"Link_stillDarkBlue__cqlBe Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 TwitterShareButton_root__YFyZU Quote_twitterShareButton__sglFW\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=Talent%20Acquisition%20insights%C2%A0In%20my%20time%20hiring%20for%20tech%20roles,%20I've%20noticed%20a%20big%20increase%20in%20women%20applying%20over%20the%20last%20five%20years.%20More%20and%20more%20women%20are%20showing%20interest%20in%20a%20variety%20of%20tech%20jobs,%20like%20engineering,%20cybersecurity,%20and%20data%20science.At%20Nord%20Security,%20diversity%20matters%20a%20lot%20to%20us.%20We%20make%20it%20a%20priority%20to%20encourage%20women%20to%20apply%20for%20positions.%20Our%20NordSwitch%20program%20is%20a%20great%20example%20of%20this.%20We%20run%20it%20every%20year%20to%20bring%20in%20people%20from%20different%20backgrounds.%C2%A0We're%20looking%20forward%20to%20it%20this%20April%20just%20as%20much%20as%20in%20past%20years.%20It's%20worth%20noting%20that%20half%20of%20the%20people%20we%20hired%20from%20this%20program%20were%20women.%20What's%20even%20more%20heartening%20is%20that%2090%25%20of%20them%20have%20stayed%20with%20us%20for%20more%20than%20six%20months,%20and%20they're%20happy%20in%20their%20roles.Lauryna%20Gir%C4%97nien%C4%97,%20Head%20of%20Talent%20Acquisition%20at%20NordVPN%20and%20NordLayer&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fnordlayer.com%2Fblog%2Fwomen-in-tech-insights\" aria-label=\"Share on Twitter\"><span class=\"Quote_tweetText__hNFS5\">Click to tweet<\/span><\/a><\/p><\/div><h2 id=\"insight-2-your-role-model-could-be-someone-you-know-heroes-arent-just-those-in-the-spotlight\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #2: Your role model could be someone you know; heroes aren&#8217;t just those in the spotlight<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer:<\/b> Let&#8217;s talk about the role of models. Shelby, how have role models influenced your tech career?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko: <\/b>Three women come to mind as my role models. First, there&#8217;s Dr. Abbie, a scientist, not specifically tech-focused but a mentor who significantly helped me step out of my comfort zone. Then, Amanda Marchuk, my colleague, is my biggest supporter. Finally, Rosa Rowles, a fellow researcher I work with daily, brings a different perspective to our work, which is fascinating. We tackle problems from varied angles but always support each other.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>That&#8217;s wonderful. Having an empowering atmosphere within the team is vital. Ginte, could you also share your story and role models?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117: <\/b>It might sound clich\u00e9, but it&#8217;s my mother. She&#8217;s had a 55-year career in civil engineering, specializing in drafting blueprints for large buildings, such as refrigerating facilities the size of football fields and various industrial buildings. When she started her career, it was a highly male-dominated field.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">She&#8217;s taught me to be logical, focused, and thorough, which has been invaluable. Growing up, her example made me confident I could succeed in technical areas, especially ones involving physics and math, which I loved.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">When I started my professional life, I finally met other women in tech. A standout was the head of our architecture department, the most senior woman I&#8217;d seen in my field. She was incredibly skilled and supportive.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Now, at NordLayer, our <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"\/en\/blog\/meet-the-team-cto-of-nordlayer\/\">CTO, Juta,<\/a> is a fantastic leader I admire. I&#8217;m lucky to have a great circle of friends at work to share ideas and challenges with.<\/p><h2 id=\"insight-3-stressed-remind-yourself-ive-got-this-just-like-any-other-day\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #3: Stressed? Remind yourself, &#8220;I&#8217;ve got this, just like any other day.&#8221;<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer:<\/b> Now, let&#8217;s touch on challenges and setbacks. Shelby, could you share some of the biggest challenges you&#8217;ve faced as a woman in tech, the mindset that helped you overcome these obstacles, and any particular stories, lessons learned, or achievements that make you proud?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko:<\/b> Many of my challenges have stemmed from my own doubts about my capabilities. Once, my boss asked me to conduct a live vishing call in front of about 300 people. The prospect was daunting because the success of such calls is never guaranteed, and I was worried about failing publicly. However, my team lead at the time, Ryan, noticed my anxiety and encouraged me by simply reminding me to do what I do every day. His confidence in my skills made a huge difference, and I&#8217;ve carried that mindset forward into other aspects of my work, from on-site jobs to various projects. Whenever I doubt myself, I remember Ryan&#8217;s encouragement and remind myself that I am qualified and capable.<\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"Image_autoHeight__eDTAt Image_autoWidth__spy21 RichText_image__z9xEG\" style=\"color: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=1280&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 50vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=384&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 384w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=600&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 600w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=640&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 640w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=750&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 750w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=828&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 828w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=1080&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 1080w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/7iIj6xdEolH1XeUqp4pWFD\/9d1c33386ec3d552d4d6ab13a9e1cdd4\/1400x741.png?w=1280&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 1280w\" alt=\"Shelby Dacko quote\" width=\"0\" height=\"0\" data-nimg=\"future\" \/><\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Where do these insecurities stem from, in your opinion?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko<\/b>: It&#8217;s a mix of personal and societal factors. While my parents have always been supportive, not everyone has that kind of encouragement, and societal influences, like teachers not promoting STEM subjects, can play a part. Imposter syndrome is particularly prevalent in our industry, and it can be more intense for women. Reading &#8220;Swing Away&#8221; by Billy Boatright, which focuses on imposter syndrome, helped me a lot. One key takeaway is that if you&#8217;re chosen to take the stage, you have the skills needed to compete, even if you don&#8217;t always come out on top.<\/p><div class=\"Quote_root__31D_c\"><blockquote class=\"Quote_blockquote__n7q70\"><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Talent Acquisition insights\u00a0<\/b><\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Regarding imposter syndrome, we&#8217;ve noticed women often request lower salaries than men, particularly in tech roles in Europe. This could be because the rise of women in tech is relatively recent, and many are unsure about the salary they should expect. Often, women entering tech in their late 20s or 30s, possibly from different fields, opt for stability over risking higher salary demands.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">Lauryna Gir\u0117nien\u0117, Head of Talent Acquisition at NordVPN and NordLayer<\/p><\/blockquote><p><a class=\"Link_stillDarkBlue__cqlBe Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 TwitterShareButton_root__YFyZU Quote_twitterShareButton__sglFW\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=Talent%20Acquisition%20insights%C2%A0Regarding%20imposter%20syndrome,%20we've%20noticed%20women%20often%20request%20lower%20salaries%20than%20men,%20particularly%20in%20tech%20roles%20in%20Europe.%20This%20could%20be%20because%20the%20rise%20of%20women%20in%20tech%20is%20relatively%20recent,%20and%20many%20are%20unsure%20about%20the%20salary%20they%20should%20expect.%20Often,%20women%20entering%20tech%20in%20their%20late%2020s%20or%2030s,%20possibly%20from%20different%20fields,%20opt%20for%20stability%20over%20risking%20higher%20salary%20demands.Lauryna%20Gir%C4%97nien%C4%97,%20Head%20of%20Talent%20Acquisition%20at%20NordVPN%20and%20NordLayer&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fnordlayer.com%2Fblog%2Fwomen-in-tech-insights\" aria-label=\"Share on Twitter\"><span class=\"Quote_tweetText__hNFS5\">Click to tweet<\/span><\/a><\/p><\/div><h2 id=\"insight-4-in-tough-times-own-the-room-believing-youre-the-smartest-one-there-helps\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #4: In tough times, own the room. Believing you&#8217;re the smartest one there helps<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Considering the competitive nature often seen as a male trait, how do you view the role of confidence and emotional intelligence in your field?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117:<\/b> In my first job, I was lucky to work in an environment filled with experienced business consultants. They taught me that you need to appear knowledgeable and confident, even if you don&#8217;t feel it initially. This is about your internal belief in your capabilities, projecting self-confidence and expertise that you might not feel you possess at the moment but will develop over time.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">One colleague advised me always to consider myself the most knowledgeable person in the room, which really helps set a positive attitude. This advice seems to come more naturally to Americans than Europeans, who tend to be more reserved. But maintaining this confidence internally can significantly influence how you handle difficult situations, find patterns, and guide conversations effectively.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer:<\/b> That&#8217;s a useful tip\u2014having a mindset of &#8220;fake it till you make it.&#8221;<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117: <\/b>But it&#8217;s not really faking. You have the knowledge, and if you don&#8217;t, you navigate the conversation until you do. It&#8217;s not faking; it&#8217;s believing in your capacity to learn and adapt.<\/p><h2 id=\"insight-5-face-reality-headon-prep-thoroughly-and-shine-with-confidence\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #5: Face reality head-on, prep thoroughly, and shine with confidence<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer<\/b>: Do you have a motto or something that helps you when you&#8217;re nervous or stressed?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117:<\/b> My biology teacher used to say before tests, \u201cIf you haven\u2019t learned it by now, that ship has sailed. Just make sure you look good and dive in.\u201d It taught me that fretting doesn\u2019t help; being prepared and confident does. It\u2019s about facing those tough moments head-on and growing from them. As Sheryl Sandberg suggests, leaning into discomfort is how we expand our comfort zones.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko: <\/b>Get comfortable being uncomfortable.<\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"Image_autoHeight__eDTAt Image_autoWidth__spy21 RichText_image__z9xEG\" style=\"color: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=1280&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 50vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=384&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 384w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=600&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 600w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=640&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 640w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=750&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 750w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=828&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 828w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=1080&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 1080w, https:\/\/images.ctfassets.net\/5natoedl294r\/6r5qr4LAupIWTLuNvYmc23\/e09767d187df06d30f03492a4d8db44d\/1400x611.png?w=1280&amp;q=75&amp;fit=fill&amp;fm=webp 1280w\" alt=\"Gintare Milkeviciute quote\" width=\"0\" height=\"0\" data-nimg=\"future\" \/><\/p><h2 id=\"insight-6-diversity-isnt-just-nice-its-smart-business-different-perspectives-drive-success\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #6: Diversity isn&#8217;t just nice; it&#8217;s smart business. Different perspectives drive success<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer:<\/b> Let&#8217;s discuss diversity. It&#8217;s clear that diversity, including different ages, ethnicities, and backgrounds, is key in a team. It not only boosts the economy by increasing employment but also enhances productivity and creativity, as <a class=\"Link_inherit__NP_8V Link_medium__XEV_Z Link_noTextDecoration__GhdxD Link_aTagRoot__8wRP7 Hyperlink_link__umZi8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mckinsey.com\/featured-insights\/diversity-and-inclusion\/diversity-matters-even-more-the-case-for-holistic-impact\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">diverse teams often make better decisions<\/a>. Shelby, can you share how diversity has impacted your team&#8217;s dynamics and decision-making?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko:<\/b> This is something I see clearly on my team because we all come from different backgrounds. For example, my colleague Rosa came from the hotel industry, and on her first day, she managed to achieve a goal in a client task that I never approached because I couldn&#8217;t figure out how. She just blew me away with her approach, which I had never considered, even though I had been with the company for a year. This is a great demonstration of how diversity adds so much to a team.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Thank you so much. Gintar\u0117, as a manager, how do you approach diversity in your team?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117: <\/b>Diversity is essential, yet it can sometimes make things uncomfortable. I&#8217;ve noticed teams and managers where all members have a similar profile, not just in terms of ethnicity, gender, or age, but also in mindset and way of thinking. However, diverse teams need people who ideate, challenge, plan, execute, and review. Although it might slow down work or complicate agreement on certain topics.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">For instance, when a developer in our team started asking unusual questions, it initially seemed disruptive. Yet, by exploring these questions, we uncovered a new use case that prevented users from misusing our product and opened up opportunities for monetization. Product development, built on the pillars of product, engineering, and design, benefits greatly from diversity.<\/p><h2 id=\"insight-7-techs-cool-and-so-are-you-women-belong-in-this-innovative-space\" class=\"Heading_root__vbfeI Heading_heading20__p7mXS Heading_primary__3VZgz Heading_normal__hJuNy RichText_h2__2iijA\" data-testid=\"heading\">Insight #7: Tech&#8217;s cool, and so are you. Women belong in this innovative space<\/h2><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>As we close, let&#8217;s talk about our drive in the tech industry. What excites you about it? Shelby, can you start?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Shelby Dacko: <\/b>The constant change in tech is what&#8217;s exciting. It means we need to adapt our techniques to keep up with the bad actors. We have to evolve our methods and help train and protect those we work with.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\">The fact that bad actors won&#8217;t stop means we can&#8217;t either. We must continue combating them, and it&#8217;s thrilling to see the technological advancements made in response to these challenges. That&#8217;s what motivates me\u2014to keep growing in our efforts.<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>NordLayer: <\/b>Great insight. Gintar\u0117, what about you? What&#8217;s your favorite thing about working in tech?<\/p><p class=\"Text_text__rSWMU RichText_paragraph__DNqK4 Text_body50___cwDR\" data-testid=\"text\"><b>Gintar\u0117 Milkevi\u010di\u016bt\u0117:<\/b> For me, it&#8217;s the complexity and the need for teamwork. The predictability of past jobs bored me. In tech, especially in the product field, things are constantly changing and everything is interconnected. I enjoy strategizing and leading projects. The feeling of managing a complex task, like keeping a fast-moving train on track without it derailing, but maintaining its speed, is exhilarating. That&#8217;s what motivates me in the product field, and I think it&#8217;s the best job.<\/p><\/article><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2004c86 elementor-widget elementor-widget-shortcode\" data-id=\"2004c86\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"shortcode.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-shortcode\">\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"page\" data-elementor-id=\"18103\" class=\"elementor elementor-18103\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-748947f elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"748947f\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;_id&quot;:&quot;c4f773e&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_tablet&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_mobile&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_speed&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;%&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:50,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_type&quot;:&quot;scroll&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_direction&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_fx_direction&quot;:null,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_z_index&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size&quot;:&quot;auto&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_animation_prop&quot;:&quot;transform&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_on&quot;:[&quot;desktop&quot;,&quot;tablet&quot;]}]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7995c19\" data-id=\"7995c19\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a437045 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image-box\" data-id=\"a437045\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image-box.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image-box-wrapper\"><div class=\"elementor-image-box-content\"><h3 class=\"elementor-image-box-title\">About Version 2 Digital<\/h3><p class=\"elementor-image-box-description\">Version 2 Digital is one of the most dynamic IT companies in Asia. The company distributes a wide range of IT products across various areas including cyber security, cloud, data protection, end points, infrastructures, system monitoring, storage, networking, business productivity and communication products.\n<br><br>\nThrough an extensive network of channels, point of sales, resellers, and partnership companies, Version 2 offers quality products and services which are highly acclaimed in the market. Its customers cover a wide spectrum which include Global 1000 enterprises, regional listed companies, different vertical industries, public utilities, Government, a vast number of successful SMEs, and consumers in various Asian cities.<\/p><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"page\" data-elementor-id=\"63567\" class=\"elementor elementor-63567\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-45e3ec76 elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"45e3ec76\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[{&quot;_id&quot;:&quot;c4f773e&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_tablet&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_image_mobile&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_speed&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;%&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:50,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;jet_parallax_layout_type&quot;:&quot;scroll&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_direction&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_fx_direction&quot;:null,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_z_index&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_x_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y&quot;:50,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_y_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size&quot;:&quot;auto&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_tablet&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_bg_size_mobile&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_animation_prop&quot;:&quot;transform&quot;,&quot;jet_parallax_layout_on&quot;:[&quot;desktop&quot;,&quot;tablet&quot;]}]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-311e216d\" data-id=\"311e216d\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3d9a2e6f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3d9a2e6f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>About NordPass<br \/><\/strong>NordPass is developed by Nord Security, a company leading the global market of cybersecurity products.<\/p><p>The web has become a chaotic space where safety and trust have been compromised by cybercrime and data protection issues. 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